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#67799: "Allow ALL players to guess after correct guess in 3p and 4p"
#67799: "Allow ALL players to guess after correct guess in 3p and 4p"
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Sugestão: Na minha opinião, o que sugiro a seguir poderia melhorar muito a implementação do jogo
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Sugestão: Na minha opinião, o que sugiro a seguir poderia melhorar muito a implementação do jogo
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I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• Por favor explique o que queria fazer, o que fez e o que aconteceu
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã deste bug (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para a carregar online e copiar/colar o link aqui.
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
• O que foi mostrado no ecrão quando ficou bloqueado (Ecrã em branco? Parte do interface de jogo? Mensagem de erro?)
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
• Qual era a acção de jogo que queria fazer?
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• O que tenta fazer para provocar esta acção de jogo?
• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer isto(mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer uma acção de jogo(mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
• Por favor descreva o problema de visualização. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã deste bug (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para a carregar online e copiar/colar o link aqui.
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã deste bug (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para a carregar online e copiar/colar o link aqui.
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v103
Histórico do relatório
12 jul 2022 13:43 • SandraaK • Esta sugestão ainda não foi analisada pelos desenvolvedores:
Please consider.
14 jul 2022 23:34 • Keso77 • Esta sugestão ainda não foi analisada pelos desenvolvedores:
This is my biggest negative aspect of this game as well.
The 4th player have information from the three players before him while the 1st have non. If the third player guess correct, the 4th have the chance to guess as well to split the victory, while the 1st and 2nd player are not allowed, even if they would have the same information as the 3ed and 4th player. There is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to answer as well.
The 4th player have information from the three players before him while the 1st have non. If the third player guess correct, the 4th have the chance to guess as well to split the victory, while the 1st and 2nd player are not allowed, even if they would have the same information as the 3ed and 4th player. There is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to answer as well.
15 jul 2022 9:23 • ufm • Esta sugestão ainda não foi analisada pelos desenvolvedores:
BGA basically does not adopt house rules, unless the publisher agrees.
21 jul 2022 20:44 • JCase16 • Esta sugestão ainda não foi analisada pelos desenvolvedores:
I can tell you this game will die for more than 2 players if this isn't implemented. The publisher hopefully can see this issue and will make a rule change in their own game too.
26 jul 2022 13:21 • stefano • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:
I asked the publisher about this. Will keep you posted.
27 jul 2022 15:08 • stefano • Os desenvolvedores acham que não é uma boa ideia ou que a relação custo/benefício é muito alta:
Reply from the publisher:
"Let's stick to the rules for now, I'll have the project manager and the author test the game later to find a solution, I'll get back to you."
"Let's stick to the rules for now, I'll have the project manager and the author test the game later to find a solution, I'll get back to you."
9 ago 2022 10:43 • HarryPeteur • Os desenvolvedores acham que não é uma boa ideia ou que a relação custo/benefício é muito alta:
Is it possible to talk to the game designer about this flaw?
5 set 2022 20:59 • iris1 • Os desenvolvedores acham que não é uma boa ideia ou que a relação custo/benefício é muito alta:
Please consider again. The game is so good, but this change would make it perfect! Everybody should be able to guess after getting same info.
15 set 2022 3:20 • lastcocoabean • Os desenvolvedores acham que não é uma boa ideia ou que a relação custo/benefício é muito alta:
Agreed. There is HUGE last-player advantage here. The last player will always have more information than the other players, and can simply end the game with that correct information. Another vote for reconsideration!
15 set 2022 8:20 • stefano • Os desenvolvedores acham que não é uma boa ideia ou que a relação custo/benefício é muito alta:
Unfortunately I checked with the publisher and for now they are not willing to sponsor an house rule.
15 set 2022 12:11 • Keso77 • Os desenvolvedores acham que não é uma boa ideia ou que a relação custo/benefício é muito alta:
Couldn't we just have an option "unofficial rule change, not supported by the publisher", that could be off by default? If we see that everyone plays the game with the option enabled, then maybe they should reconsider.
15 set 2022 12:15 • stefano • Os desenvolvedores acham que não é uma boa ideia ou que a relação custo/benefício é muito alta:
No, because BGA doesn't support house rules per policy... It's not my decision, sorry.
15 set 2022 18:04 • s-klickerklacker • Os desenvolvedores acham que não é uma boa ideia ou que a relação custo/benefício é muito alta:
Agreed. There is HUGE last-player advantage here. The last player will always have more information than the other players, and can simply end the game with that correct information. Another vote for reconsideration!
if it is not possible to change the rules, please let check me, if ill be the first player before starting game, so i can quit without loosing points.
if it is not possible to change the rules, please let check me, if ill be the first player before starting game, so i can quit without loosing points.
24 set 2022 20:46 • Denis • Os desenvolvedores acham que não é uma boa ideia ou que a relação custo/benefício é muito alta:
I just saw this issue after posting the same thing in #72453. I would like to add one suggestion to the conversation that may be amenable and improve the problem that the first player is at a big disadvantage:
Allow players to Guess the Tiles AFTER making their move, before their turn is finished. The last player will still have an advantage over the first player, but it will not be as bad.
To take it further, another change that might be consistent with the original rules is if a player elects to "Guess the Tiles", then other players have the option to do the same (before knowing the result of the first player's guess). For reference, the BGA implementation states the following "NOTE: Although there are multiple versions of this game, this adaptation uses the version whereby you may only guess during your turn NOT out of turn"
Allow players to Guess the Tiles AFTER making their move, before their turn is finished. The last player will still have an advantage over the first player, but it will not be as bad.
To take it further, another change that might be consistent with the original rules is if a player elects to "Guess the Tiles", then other players have the option to do the same (before knowing the result of the first player's guess). For reference, the BGA implementation states the following "NOTE: Although there are multiple versions of this game, this adaptation uses the version whereby you may only guess during your turn NOT out of turn"
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