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#60859: "First player advantage: alternative start option?"
#60859: "First player advantage: alternative start option?"
acknowledged: Os desenvolvedores concordam que é uma boa ideia e pretendem trabalhar nisso
60859
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Sugestão: Na minha opinião, o que sugiro a seguir poderia melhorar muito a implementação do jogo
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Sugestão: Na minha opinião, o que sugiro a seguir poderia melhorar muito a implementação do jogo
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• Por favor copie e cole a mensagem de erro que aparece na tela, se possível.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Por favor explique o que queria fazer, o que fez e o que aconteceu
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
• O que estava presente na tela quando você estava bloqueado (tela em branco? Parte da imagem do jogo? Mensagem de erro?)
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
• Qual era a ação de jogo que queria fazer?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• O que você tentou fazer para provocar esta ação de jogo?
• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer isto(mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer essa ação de jogo (mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
• Por favor descreva o problema de visualização. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Safari v15.3
Histórico do relatório
11 mar 2022 19:14 • PiratJack • Os desenvolvedores concordam que é uma boa ideia e pretendem trabalhar nisso:
Hello,
That sounds like a great idea!
Unfortunately, the rule on BGA is to stay as close as possible as the base game. I'll share the suggestion with the publisher and see if they're open to that adaptation.
I'll add the statistics on the 1st player as well, to see if it makes a huge difference or not.
Regards,
PiratJack
That sounds like a great idea!
Unfortunately, the rule on BGA is to stay as close as possible as the base game. I'll share the suggestion with the publisher and see if they're open to that adaptation.
I'll add the statistics on the 1st player as well, to see if it makes a huge difference or not.
Regards,
PiratJack
13 mar 2022 15:01 • PiratJack • Os desenvolvedores concordam que é uma boa ideia e pretendem trabalhar nisso:
Hello,
I have added a statistic to know who won. It should help identify whether there's a balance problem or not. We'll see in a few days / weeks!
Regards,
PiratJack
I have added a statistic to know who won. It should help identify whether there's a balance problem or not. We'll see in a few days / weeks!
Regards,
PiratJack
9 set 2024 11:23 • lioness65 • Os desenvolvedores concordam que é uma boa ideia e pretendem trabalhar nisso:
Anything new about this? Please check my post boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=189502
10 set 2024 20:51 • PiratJack • Os desenvolvedores concordam que é uma boa ideia e pretendem trabalhar nisso:
Hello,
Sorry, I haven't been very active on this. I reached out again to the publisher, to see if they would allow me to do this. I now have a more direct contact with them, but I can't guarantee any delay on the answer (my contact may even have left the company, it's been a year since I talked with him last time).
Regards,
PiratJack
Sorry, I haven't been very active on this. I reached out again to the publisher, to see if they would allow me to do this. I now have a more direct contact with them, but I can't guarantee any delay on the answer (my contact may even have left the company, it's been a year since I talked with him last time).
Regards,
PiratJack
11 set 2024 2:51 • lioness65 • Os desenvolvedores concordam que é uma boa ideia e pretendem trabalhar nisso:
Thank you for checking, PiratJack!
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