#94317: "Trading Fee not paid when player later gained enough money"
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In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Por favor explique o que queria fazer, o que fez e o que aconteceu
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
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Google Chrome v109
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In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v109
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v109
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• O que estava presente na tela quando você estava bloqueado (tela em branco? Parte da imagem do jogo? Mensagem de erro?)
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v109
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v109
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• Qual era a ação de jogo que queria fazer?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• O que você tentou fazer para provocar esta ação de jogo?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
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• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer isto(mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v109
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• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer essa ação de jogo (mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v109
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• Por favor descreva o problema de visualização. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v109
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• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v109
-
• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v109
Histórico do relatório
So, the bug then (which violates the game rules), is that the trading fees were not paid immediately when player gained enough money through dividends. The fees were only paid when the player gained money by selling shares shares. Also, unpaid trading fees were not visible to other players, when the game rules state that they should be revealed/placed in front of the player.
Move 106 - player received 2k from dividends, no money was deducted to pay for the accumulated 3k fees.
Move 131 - player acquired another 3k of fees, kept to be paid later
Move 143 - player received 6k dividends, yet no money was deducted to pay for the 6k accumulated trading fees
Move 166 - player sold 10k worth of shares, only then 6k of accumulated trading fees were paid.
Not paying the accumulated fees immediately when money became available (even from dividends) as the rules require allowed player to bid on stockpiles in the succeeding rounds, forcing other players to bid higher. This would not have happened if the player had no money left.
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