#76260: "Incorrect middle wait (2 fu) bug"
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I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
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Move 164
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I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
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Move 164
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Google Chrome v107
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v107
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• O que estava presente na tela quando você estava bloqueado (tela em branco? Parte da imagem do jogo? Mensagem de erro?)
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v107
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
Move 164
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Google Chrome v107
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• Qual era a ação de jogo que queria fazer?
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• O que você tentou fazer para provocar esta ação de jogo?
Move 164
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• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer isto(mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
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Google Chrome v107
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• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer essa ação de jogo (mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
Move 164
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Google Chrome v107
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I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v107
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• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
Move 164
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v107
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v107
Histórico do relatório
Hans and fus are treated as the highest scoring form based on the final result regardless of other waits.
For example, with a hand of 1234456AAABBB, ron on 7 does not add 2 fu as the wait must be 4-7 open.
However, ron on 1/4 adds 2 fu as it can be considered as 1/4 single wait.
And then, with a hand of 1234456ABCDEF, ron on 4 is now treated as 0 fu as treating the wait as 4-7 open adds pinfu and becomes the highest scoring form instead.
"Hans and fus are treated as the highest scoring form..." (This part yes, eg. you score Double identical Chows instead of 7 pairs, same structure, but a fan difference) "...based on the final result regardless of other waits." This latter part is unknown to me and on tournaments, people never get extra points if it rulewise can be prohibbited, in simple terms, you either have (truely) 1 possibility or you don't (theoretical or not, even if all tiles of one possibity are all on the table). This argument is always used and accepted by everybody).
Your last example, yes your last example Pinfu is awared (if applicable, ABCDEF being 2 chows too and the closing pair is already in hand as is the case), but let say Riichi been declared and ABC being a pung, then the winner never gets 2 fu (on the 1 - 4 - 7).
I don't want to argue, and i'm glad with the implementation, the dispute is only game altering in the case of from 20 to 22 (30 to 32 etc), but i don't think 99,9% of the cases people don't explicitly play for these 2 fu, so 3 cheers for those who do and get a better score.
I will pose this particular question to the EMA and their response, because a couple of years ago they tried to play according to as the Japanese do (with help from the Japanese), so they disbanded red 5's and little nuances which were allowed on EMA tournaments and was not according to Japanese play.
If i know more i will come back.
"The 2 minipoints for edge, closed or single wait can be claimed even if the hand is waiting for other tiles"
"The highest-scoring possibility decides which set is finished by the winning tile. Consider the following waiting
pattern".
As you said.
My apologies for the ruckus. This bug report can be closed.
Happy playing,
gilthe
Adicione alguma coisa para este relatório
- Outro ID de mesa / ID de jogada
- Carregar em F5 resolveu o problema?
- O problema aparece várias vezes? Sempre? Imprevisivelmente?
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