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4 May 2022 22:22 • Sdani • Esta sugestão ainda não foi analisada pelos desenvolvedores:

it can be an option

4 May 2022 22:26 • lordalx • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Dice statistics are already part of end game statistics.

This is already implemented and since no die roll is related to previous, I don't see the point of having such stat display during the game itself.

15 Jun 2022 23:16 • camillemayer • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

the "old online version" is Brettspielwelt (which I think is still on, actually), and I agree it was very interesting to have access to real time statistics. Also, the display was a histogram of the number of times the number rolled (without showing the %), and I think it was more appropriate :)

22 Jun 2022 06:44 • Respublik • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

While I like this suggestion for my game's enjoyment, having the site present dice stats live doesn't feel at all in the spirit of the game.

24 Jun 2022 16:48 • joel2v32 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

This feature use to be on "Asobrain" which was similar to Catan.

As the game continued you would see how many times a dice was rolled.

I agree this is nice to have during the game to see how many times certain dice were rolled.

I've only played two games, but in both games felt the 10 and 8 were unfairly under rolled.

30 Jun 2022 19:03 • djabwana • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Yes the real time display is helpful when you try to negotiate with players and say things like "I only ever got 1 wheat from that spot, please don't block it". It's helpful to make sure you're being accurate based on the history of dice that was rolled (And since it's in the game log, it's not new information, just collecting it into a popup or tooltip somewhere)

30 Jun 2022 19:04 • djabwana • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Maybe we should update the title of this ticket though to indicate "real time" or "in game"

Thank you for adding it to the end of game display!

4 Jul 2022 00:05 • ptitours de lyon • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Could you also verify on several games that the dice are realy normals : I saw realy too unprobable score : 3 and 11 particulary. A mesure on each games could measure the fair of dice

16 Jul 2022 09:03 • caz_manc • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

There is a problem with the three player game where the numbers are not random. Sometimes it gets stuck on a number which comes up 3 times in a row, and sometimes numbers don't come up at all in the whole game.

19 Jul 2022 00:09 • LordMouton • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Dice statistics are weird almost every game.
Last one I played :
3 - 9 times
4 - 15
5 - 13
6 - 19
7 - 11
8 - 11
9 - 6
10 - 4
11 - 6
12 - 6

28 Jul 2022 10:07 • ScreamingWheels • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I agree that the random number generator being used is broken and not fit for purpose - it clearly is not providing a distribution you would expect from two D6. Statistics would only serve to emphasise this. BGA just need to fix the RNG otherwise game is not playable.

28 Jul 2022 10:09 • ScreamingWheels • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

A.normal distribution from 2D6 is ESSENTIAL for this game to function correctly - it is ALL about resource selection based on probability

29 Jul 2022 19:40 • LordMouton • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

again and again and again...
Lancer de dés : taux de 2 (~3%) 0
Lancer de dés : taux de 3 (~6%) 12
Lancer de dés : taux de 4 (~8%) 13
Lancer de dés : taux de 5 (~11%) 12
Lancer de dés : taux de 6 (~14%) 7
Lancer de dés : taux de 7 (~17%) 19
Lancer de dés : taux de 8 (~14%) 15
Lancer de dés : taux de 9 (~11%) 9
Lancer de dés : taux de 10 (~8%) 5
Lancer de dés : taux de 11 (~6%) 8
Lancer de dés : taux de 12 (~3%) 0

5 Aug 2022 16:43 • PeteZah • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I can confirm the camillemayer suggestion. On BSW, a panel contained an histogram automatically refreshed after each dice throw. It was just as information, but it avoid a lot of non fact-based messages in the chat. For me, display it during the game is really a simple implementation and can make the ambiance better during the game

7 Aug 2022 07:19 • Bhaouloute • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

As a turn-base game player, i agree with the suggestion ! To get an idea of what ressources are available for trade or theft, I have to scroll a long time through the game log. A real time dice throw stats display would be a great improvement for me.

10 Aug 2022 14:50 • MrBeardy • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

the old playcatan website of circa 2010 used to have this "number of dice rolls" histogram. It was off by default but users could click a button to display it if they wanted to. It was useful to see what the distribution was when you couldn't understand why you were doing so badly, to see that 3 and 11 had come up loads and your 5-6-9 combo hadn't happened much (at that point) and then later you could see the distribution change. Or sometimes not change and you could just chalk it down to weird dice that game. It's not essential but it is useful. Particularly when you get a whiner in the chat who thinks the game is persecuting them etc.

16 Aug 2022 14:02 • nerhael • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I feel like the dice stats can't be right. I just finished a game that claims 5 was rolled 13 times, yet I produced only 9 brick. However, I started settlement on a 5 brick, and it was my first upgrade to a city early game, there was never a robber on it, so how is that possible?

23 Aug 2022 09:10 • Kabresh • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

When in the beginning of a game a number rolls a couple of times, hurry and put a house next to it.
In most games i played, the randomniser has a favorite number.

Would be nice if bga checked on there randomniser

29 Aug 2022 16:57 • mileswiles • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

it's shaming those dices. I've played a game than 9 is rolled EVERY TIME.

20 Sep 2022 04:49 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

As a mathematician with a graduate degree, I agree that the random number generator for Catan needs to be looked at. The last game I played had 8 and 9 rolled twice as much as they would have been in a normal distribution and 5 rolled half as much, but more notably the die clearly favored one player and punished one player. I've noticed this now on many games. It's really not fun to play with a die that is so obviously not random.

20 Sep 2022 08:03 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Just played a game with 4 elevens rolled in the first nine rolls (probability of that happening is about 6 in 10,000)

21 Sep 2022 02:34 • MrBeardy • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

re my post above, the histogram was real time (in game) not limited to end game stats. There were also useful summary tallies of how many resources each player had received/traded/had blocked/had robbed/received by robbery available in real time too. It was far more useful in-game and easier to read than the end game table presented on BGA.

15 Oct 2022 19:59 • JackyJansen • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Playing a lot, and it seams the algorithm has 'habits". I just had a game where a player threw 7 times 7 in consecutive turns, games with hardly 6 or 8, but an amazing amount of 5 and 9. Even games where there were more 2 and 12 than 4 or 10. Distribution is weird, to say the least.

19 Oct 2022 03:38 • soleada • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Please look at the game table #309741100

Dice roll: rate of 2 (~3%)
0
Dice roll: rate of 3 (~6%)
2
Dice roll: rate of 4 (~8%)
2
Dice roll: rate of 5 (~11%)
9
Dice roll: rate of 6 (~14%)
2
Dice roll: rate of 7 (~17%)
19
Dice roll: rate of 8 (~14%)
16
Dice roll: rate of 9 (~11%)
9
Dice roll: rate of 10 (~8%)
23
Dice roll: rate of 11 (~6%)
12
Dice roll: rate of 12 (~3%)
5

How is this even possible?
Distribution skewed heavily. Also almost no 6s but a million 10s.

Something is seriously off with probabilities of Catan, since this happens a lot.
Almost every game probabilities are off.

24 Oct 2022 07:20 • donkeyboy72 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I can only echo that the dice do not follow the probabilities at all. The distribution of rolls is not anywhere near how it should be. Please look into it. It is very frustrating for many players. I can't chalk ot up to a fluke, as many games as I have played now.

2 Dec 2022 20:39 • Jevanyn • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I've been accumulating dice totals across multiple games, to see if there is sufficient regression toward the mean.

That being said, the dice totals are incorrect at the end of a game. For example:

boardgamearena.com/8/catan?table=322970460

There were 58 player turns, but the dice rolls add up to 101. If you're already showing %age for each roll, why are the actual counts scaled up to ~100? I've seen this for multiple games: the total number of turns will be 50-60 but the number of rolls is ~100.

5 Dec 2022 00:35 • TedinTO • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I definitely agree that the dice do not follow expected probabilities. In my experience this has worsened to the point that the winner of most games of experienced players is (in effect) the dice, not the "winning" player.

Although I try to counter this reality by placing my initial settlements close to as many different numbers as possible, almost invariably the dice decide to fixate on the numbers to which I am not adjacent (i.e. 5s and 9s - or worse - when I am near both 6s and 8s.)

Although I really like the game concept, this flaw has led me to quit one or two games in extreme frustration and consider giving up playing the game entirely.

30 Dec 2022 02:26 • starman72 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I also agree that the dice statistics are off. Not enough 6's and too many 8's and 10's.

The community has picked up on this-- good players take "8" locations in preference over "6" locations.

31 Jan 2023 21:34 • chobo21 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Game ID # 342287246 Bug, cheating or just strange luck?

Winning player rolled 7 seven times out of eighteen rolls while myself and third player each rolled only two 7's apiece. I'm salty because I think I objectively had the best board setup and probability to win.

14 Feb 2023 06:07 • judyjay • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Dice is not random. our game had at least 15 tens rolled and 1 six.

14 Feb 2023 06:23 • judyjay • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

ID
Dice roll: rate of 2 (~3%)
4
Dice roll: rate of 3 (~6%)
9
Dice roll: rate of 4 (~8%)
11
Dice roll: rate of 5 (~11%)
11
Dice roll: rate of 6 (~14%)
2
Dice roll: rate of 7 (~17%)
13
Dice roll: rate of 8 (~14%)
13
Dice roll: rate of 9 (~11%)
9
Dice roll: rate of 10 (~8%)
21
Dice roll: rate of 11 (~6%)
6
Dice roll: rate of 12 (~3%)
2

10 Mar 2023 06:02 • WeLoveKoyori • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

table=355087901
Here's another extreme example where I got demolished because I produced only a total of 25 resources in the whole game (ofc without intentionally choosing bad locations).

Dice roll: rate of 2 (~3%)
0
Dice roll: rate of 3 (~6%)
6
Dice roll: rate of 4 (~8%)
6
Dice roll: rate of 5 (~11%)
18
Dice roll: rate of 6 (~14%)
5
Dice roll: rate of 7 (~17%)
15
Dice roll: rate of 8 (~14%)
21
Dice roll: rate of 9 (~11%)
6
Dice roll: rate of 10 (~8%)
13
Dice roll: rate of 11 (~6%)
3
Dice roll: rate of 12 (~3%)
6

10 Mar 2023 21:25 • nocheatspls • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

CZEMU KOŚCI SĄ ŻUCANE TAK ABY JEDEN GRACZ MIAŁ W KOŚCIACH 7 ?

21 Mar 2023 20:38 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

@Jevanyn, I applaud and support your efforts to analyze the statistics of these weird dice over many games. The end-game stats do not tally number of rolls for each possible outcome, but rather the percentage of each outcome (rounded to the nearest percent).

22 Mar 2023 13:11 • firstpn • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

The dice statistic is not balance.

2 Apr 2023 15:49 • Furious-Sep • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Hi .... I absolutely agree ... It's normal that soetimes à numbre ocures more often ... but here there's really a problem..... 24 times 6 agaist 12 times 8?????
Guys you have to fix this..... ant in every game there are strange things.
Chance is part of the game ... bur normally there's also strategy.... and on BGA it really onlt luck.

5 Apr 2023 23:14 • Furious-Sep • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Table 364028514 - April 5th 2023
Lancer de dés : taux de 2 (~3%)
9
Lancer de dés : taux de 3 (~6%)
4
Lancer de dés : taux de 4 (~8%)
1
Lancer de dés : taux de 5 (~11%)
21
Lancer de dés : taux de 6 (~14%)
9
Lancer de dés : taux de 7 (~17%)
14
Lancer de dés : taux de 8 (~14%)
13
Lancer de dés : taux de 9 (~11%)
12
Lancer de dés : taux de 10 (~8%)
5
Lancer de dés : taux de 11 (~6%)
8
Lancer de dés : taux de 12 (~3%)
4

5 Apr 2023 23:16 • Furious-Sep • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

See above
.... 9 times 2, 8 times 11 and 9 times 6
... 21 times 5

We had a lot of fun with the dices lol ... but it's impossible to develop a strategy with that

5 Apr 2023 23:16 • Furious-Sep • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

and 1 time 4 lol

6 Apr 2023 06:48 • firstpn • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

if you can't fix this problem . I'll stop playing permanently

7 Apr 2023 10:20 • agentlik • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

boardgamearena.com/table?table=364487743

Last 12 turns - 8 dropped 8 times (75%). Player with house on "8" won the game. Because 75% is too much.
8-3-8-8-8-7-8-8-8-6-7-8 - last 12 turns

18 Apr 2023 16:32 • lecasgb • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Lancer de dés : taux de 2 (~3%)
6
Lancer de dés : taux de 3 (~6%)
3
Lancer de dés : taux de 4 (~8%)
3
Lancer de dés : taux de 5 (~11%)
11
Lancer de dés : taux de 6 (~14%)
2
Lancer de dés : taux de 7 (~17%)
20
Lancer de dés : taux de 8 (~14%)
17
Lancer de dés : taux de 9 (~11%)
13
Lancer de dés : taux de 10 (~8%)
16
Lancer de dés : taux de 11 (~6%)
5
Lancer de dés : taux de 12 (~3%)
5

Same thing ...
Table 368335739

Moreover, it say that there was 2 roll 6 but i saw only one. I saw the game another time and there was only one 6. So only 1 six on 76 rolls...

27 Apr 2023 14:54 • lecasgb • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Table 371364965

Lancer de dés : taux de 2 (~3%)
5
Lancer de dés : taux de 3 (~6%)
0
Lancer de dés : taux de 4 (~8%)
10
Lancer de dés : taux de 5 (~11%)
10
Lancer de dés : taux de 6 (~14%)
14
Lancer de dés : taux de 7 (~17%)
10
Lancer de dés : taux de 8 (~14%)
10
Lancer de dés : taux de 9 (~11%)
12
Lancer de dés : taux de 10 (~8%)
14
Lancer de dés : taux de 11 (~6%)
12
Lancer de dés : taux de 12 (~3%)
5

Same thing... A lot of 10 and 11

6 May 2023 00:20 • goldlyn • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

out of the last 6 dice rolls, five (5!!!) were 7's. That means no one could make amove for 5 of the 7 turns. Ridiculous. Unacceptable. PLEASE FIX!!!
Table #373853551
Move #50
Progression 0%

6 May 2023 00:21 • goldlyn • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

What more information do you want in order to look into this bug???

18 May 2023 09:02 • Crowdel • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Commenting to maintain relevance of this issue. It needs fixing. When you have a settlement next to 1 of every number but 9 and 10 but then the one player who placed almost exclusively there wins by a mile because of die rolls... Not fun. Table #378262691

5 Jun 2023 20:04 • real_vpp • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Pattern I am seeing almost any Catan game now: It comes a moment in the game when only two dices are thrown: 4, 6 with some 7 cherry on top, over and over. Literally insane to play in such conditions.

Sample: Catan game 384257740

8 Jun 2023 22:29 • Yamoa • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Bonsoir,
Je ne sais pas si le sujet à déjà été abordé? Je ne vais pas parler des probabilité générale mais dans des cas spéciaux ou les probabilité semble être modifiées : 1) lorsque le voleur est sur un numéro, celui-ci sort beaucoup plus souvent juste après. 2) Lorsque j'ai plus de 7 cartes à mon tour, la probabilité que le 7 sorte passe de 16.67% à 50%. 3) lorsqu'une colonie est construite, trés souvent le numéro qui sort juste après est situé sur une case adjacente à la nouvelle colonie.
Je ne suis pas le seul à l'avoir remarqué?!

Good evening,
I don't know if this topic has been covered before? I'm not going to talk about the general probability but in special cases where the probability seems to be modified: 1) when the thief is on a number, it comes out much more often just after. 2) When I have more than 7 cards in my turn, the probability that the 7 comes out goes from 16.67% to 50%. 3) when a colony is built, very often the number that comes out right after is located on a square adjacent to the new colony.
I'm not the only one who noticed this?!

9 Jun 2023 06:52 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

@Yamoa, I love these observations. I have noticed
#1 for sure (if I want my 10 to be rolled, I put the robber on the other 10 - it doesn't guarantee it, but seems to increase the probability)
#2 I have found this to be true as well, but usually it does not happen to the player with the lowest elo at the table (or perhaps, not to the current loser).
#3 I haven't noticed this, but I will keep an eye out for it

My observations
#4 The dice rolls, especially in the first half of the game, in the first half of the game often benefit one player, based on their initial settlements. This person who benefits also tends to roll more 7's (but not when their hand is over limit)

18 Jun 2023 01:30 • Andretapol • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

A few weeks ago I noticed that the behavior of the dice is strange according to statistics.
According to the statistics that the game proposes, the numbers that should appear the most are 8 and 6, but there are games where 6 rarely appears and 8 very rarely. Instead 5 or 3 seem to be the new 6 and 8.
This conspires against the nature of the game.

17 Jul 2023 05:55 • thirano • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Extremely biased dice rolls
When fix it?

17 Jul 2023 06:19 • thirano • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Both dice and chance cards behave unusually
Random number generation apparently not working properly

17 Jul 2023 07:04 • thirano • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

i.imgur.com/8uF5MzF.png
Is it normal for the first four chance cards to be scoring cards?

17 Jul 2023 09:20 • darhf • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

yes it is.

17 Jul 2023 22:46 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

4 in 10,000 chance of pulling 4 victory points cards in the first four picks

29 Jul 2023 22:51 • thirano • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Random number generation is clearly not working properly.
When will this bug be fixed?

7 Aug 2023 10:58 • sergut • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I agree with lordax: this suggestion does not add anything to the game.

Additionally, it will make the game experience poorer, encouraging people with a poor sense of statistics to complain about the random number generator to be buggy when it is not.

A game of Catan typically involves between 60 and 90 die rolls. Those are not Large Numbers. That is too little to make it very likely that the distribution of results will always look like a normal distribution. There is nothing weird about a game of Catan where 3 is rolled more often than 8 --- also on a physical table, with real dice. (If you aggregated all the roll dice from all the games, then you would clearly see 8 being rolled more often, but in any particular game anything can happen.)

And yet, this thread is full of posts complaining that for this or that specific game, the distribution does not look normal and/or the random number generator is buggy. 🤦 A live count of results would only encourage this behaviour ("We have rolled 12 times and 8 has not come up yet!").

If I could vote against this suggestion, I would.

7 Aug 2023 11:42 • sergut • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

See also boardgamearena.com/bug?id=66082, another bug report where people with a poor sense of statistics posted tons of complaints about the random number generator being buggy when it is not.

11 Aug 2023 01:20 • Vengil • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I got a game:

The ten is released 0 times!
And the eleven is released out 14 times!

Look at the screenshot:
i.imgur.com/HFdoztp.png

13 Sep 2023 00:33 • Guillem_Itsejam • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

One game 5 - 0 times
Another game 8 - 0 times

Ridiculous

13 Sep 2023 00:42 • ABA_Girl12 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

this is ridiculous. im about to cancel my membership

6 Nov 2023 06:11 • serjerbazo • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

imgur.com/5SFIrjI

I lost this came on catan bc among 6 and 9 were less than 5. It hasn't any sense at all. 9 has the same rate as 5 and 6 has more rate. ¿How is it even possible to be more than double times 5 than both of them?

10 Nov 2023 12:13 • Romero91 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I agree that it can be frustrating not getting the normal dice rolls in some games. But of course, the more times you play the more times the statistics should get real.
To be honest i was not happy when i lost some games and i had the best numbers to win. But that is what probability is, it won't always be accurate, just most of times.

In order to know if the number generator is wrong, we need to take into account every game that is played. That would be millions of dice rolls and then check the percentage of every number.
But only with let's say around 100 times per game, i think it is not enough to assure that there is any issue.

5 Jan 2024 22:45 • sloba147 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

dice are rigged in catan at least. it is impossible to have more 3, 11, and 9 and no 6 at all

6 Feb 2024 17:31 • John Sun 13 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I don't understand the dice distribution algorithm. you can't play if you get fat with 7.8 of your opponents' dice. they each get 2,3 of 4,5,6, and I stop one for all that many hands the difference.

6 Feb 2024 17:33 • John Sun 13 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I do nothing but wait for them to win. I just roll the dice and that's it. It's not possible to play like that.

6 Feb 2024 21:26 • John Sun 13 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

it's just a joke. I understand that you should give more chances to those with upremium, but even so...it's a waste of time, really

6 Feb 2024 21:28 • John Sun 13 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I didn't get a dice of 10 hands, is this normal?
yes, and when they have 8 or 9 points, the game starts and I also have dice...good score 10

6 Feb 2024 21:41 • John Sun 13 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

The most unfair game..there is no such thing...it's a joke

7 Feb 2024 16:56 • John Sun 13 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

please understand that you cannot play if you are not given equal chances with your opponents, in every game the dice distribution algorithm is not fayr. I understand that premium players must be in profit, but not in this way. it's a joke. in this way, do nothing but make the others give up. I really like this game, but at this rate it makes me give up...

7 Feb 2024 16:58 • John Sun 13 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

today I capitulated. I couldn't resist anymore, besides the fact that I was getting a dice at 4.5 of the opponents, those who had 7 and 5 points, respectively, and I had 3, were stealing from me. You can't play this way, no matter how ambitious you are.

7 Feb 2024 20:01 • John Sun 13 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

by the way, I notice with sadness that the ones I flagged are not even read, I don't speak to be analyzed anymore, I don't receive any feedback, so I have to understand that if it suits me well, if not...good bye, UGLY , Very Ugly of you

7 Feb 2024 22:38 • darhf • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I'd say 8 messages in a row is the indication that this game is not for you.
Catan is Random, dice are random; Randomness is the very thing preventing rolls to be predictable.
That's it, there's no more to it, no premium advantage bullshit or dark plots against you.
There's ton of games here without randomness.

17 Feb 2024 14:24 • Augustodunus • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Dice algorithm is very strange. I played hundreds of games and it's always same conclusion. In the real life, dices respect statistics, but in bga.... it's catastrophy

6 Mar 2024 15:45 • Henk21 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Because so many people feel like BGA is hacked it would be good to publish statistics of the individual games and the statistics for all games in that day/week. That way we can know if the odd statistics are just an abnormality of if the system get's rigged and odd statistics are way more common than they should be.

14 Mar 2024 18:42 • QueenSquid • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

PLEASE add dice stats. This game I'm currently in is horribly imbalanced - nearly a dozen 6s rolled and no 8s yet. This is ridiculous.

29 May 2024 06:54 • leosiu430 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

6 dice is double time than 8 .....
One player already have 8 points while the others only still have 2 / 3 points.... ridiculous game

30 May 2024 15:41 • leosiu430 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Dice 3 / 11 much more often than 6/9/10 …..
That’s not a normal probability

30 May 2024 16:06 • greenjacket124 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

"PLEASE add dice stats."
They're already there at the end of games.

"Dice 3 / 11 much more often than 6/9/10 …..
That’s not a normal probability"
While it's not normal in regards to pure probability, it still fits in with the randomness of dice. Your single game is not at all a large enough sample set to say that the randomizer is wrong.

7 Jun 2024 10:02 • leosiu430 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

no 6 come very very little offen......

14 Jun 2024 05:57 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Very happy to see Cities and Knights expansion included! I find Cities and Knights to be a little less dependent on dice rolls to win than other variants. But this game had double as many 10's as 8's, giving a huge advantage to the two players with the lowest elo's.
boardgamearena.com/5/catan?table=525005647

Cities and Knights has a card called Inventor that allows you to switch 2 numbers on the board (not 2, 6, 8, 12). In real life, I always get myself a 5 or a 9 and give away a 3 or 11. With these weird dice, I see players doing the opposite.

15 Jun 2024 07:59 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Double as many 3's as 9's in my latest cities and knights game, just confirming what I mentioned above

16 Jun 2024 23:46 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

26% sixes and only 2% tens, handing the game to me on a silver platter, even though I had the highest elo at the table

boardgamearena.com/11/catan?table=526131350

18 Jun 2024 23:47 • FromLardToHard • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Humans are terrible at random and even programing random is hard. I have been in IT for 30 years and places like The Cloudflare use lava lamps for Random Encryption generation. So it is not really the fault of the Game Site or the Developers. Just much harder to do than most people realize.

You can google Lava Lamp Encryption for an better explanation.

27 Jun 2024 19:07 • tipografico • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

The dice statistics are highly improbable; each game gets stuck on a number that comes up way more frequently than a 6 or an 8. How long will it take you to fix this issue? You've ruined the game! Strategy has become pointless since the game arbitrarily gets stuck in one direction, leaving no chance to recover in a match. You have thousands of complaints and yet you ask for money. I'm quite sure that even a fresh-out-of-school developer could solve this. Terrible game development.

10 Jul 2024 12:49 • Anthena • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Table #535553209
Move #184
Progression 100%

Please review alogirthm for your game. In this particular case, the player easily dominated by having 8's and 9's. After playing many games and not claiming to be the best, I have never seen the dice be in such favor of one player. I almost feel as if some players may have figured out how to adjust rolls.

Dice roll: percentage of 3 (~6%)
6
Dice roll: percentage of 4 (~8%)
6
Dice roll: percentage of 5 (~11%)
8
Dice roll: percentage of 6 (~14%)
10
Dice roll: percentage of 7 (~17%)
17
Dice roll: percentage of 8 (~14%)
25
Dice roll: percentage of 9 (~11%)
17
Dice roll: percentage of 10 (~8%)
8
Dice roll: percentage of 11 (~6%)
0
Dice roll: percentage of 12 (~3%)
2

15 Jul 2024 04:41 • LongLive2 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

The Dice makes every game boring

23 Jul 2024 03:39 • alexc5150 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

After the robber is moved to a new tile, that number is rolled on the next turn. This has happened numerous times in games I've played. Doesn't appear random.

28 Jul 2024 03:14 • Cultivator • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I think there is an issue with the random number generator, I just played a game (boardgamearena.com/4/catan?table=542823321) where there was not a single 9. 63 rolls, a 9 should have an 11.11% chance of rolling. The odds of rolling 63 times and never getting a 9 is less than one in 1669. Now realizing that I have played nearly that many games, there are still a lot of games were numbers don't roll anywhere near what they should based on probability. I think there must be something odd about how the RNG is rounded somehow that leads to some numbers coming up too much or not enough. I think it might be rounding because it different game to game, or maybe there are just patterns in the RNG so that it is not very good to begin with.

Dice roll: percentage of 2 (~3%)
2
Dice roll: percentage of 3 (~6%)
6
Dice roll: percentage of 4 (~8%)
16
Dice roll: percentage of 5 (~11%)
10
Dice roll: percentage of 6 (~14%)
17
Dice roll: percentage of 7 (~17%)
19
Dice roll: percentage of 8 (~14%)
10
Dice roll: percentage of 9 (~11%)
0
Dice roll: percentage of 10 (~8%)
13
Dice roll: percentage of 11 (~6%)
8
Dice roll: percentage of 12 (~3%)
0

5 Aug 2024 10:34 • leosiu430 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Once again..... un real dice statistics.... Just want to play a fair game....
Dice appear for 2times? Dice 4 appear 13times?...... when will GBA fix the dice statistics issue? We are in AI generation, fair statistic is just a easy things to maintain. Please fix the problem

擲骰：2 的比率 (~3%)
2
擲骰：3 的比率 (~6%)
11
擲骰：4 的比率 (~8%)
13
擲骰：5 的比率 (~11%)
2
擲骰：6 的比率 (~14%)
15
擲骰：7 的比率 (~17%)
17
擲骰：8 的比率 (~14%)
9
擲骰：9 的比率 (~11%)
13
擲骰：10 的比率 (~8%)
15
擲骰：11 的比率 (~6%)
0
擲骰：12 的比率 (~3%)
2

5 Aug 2024 10:37 • leosiu430 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

imgur.com/a/SZqbcSJ

Once again..... un real dice statistics.... Just want to play a fair game....
Dice appear for 2times? Dice 4 appear 13times?...... when will GBA fix the dice statistics issue? We are in AI generation, fair statistic is just a easy things to maintain. Please fix the problem

擲骰：2 的比率 (~3%)
2
擲骰：3 的比率 (~6%)
11
擲骰：4 的比率 (~8%)
13
擲骰：5 的比率 (~11%)
2
擲骰：6 的比率 (~14%)
15
擲骰：7 的比率 (~17%)
17
擲骰：8 的比率 (~14%)
9
擲骰：9 的比率 (~11%)
13
擲骰：10 的比率 (~8%)
15
擲骰：11 的比率 (~6%)
0
擲骰：12 的比率 (~3%)
2

19 Aug 2024 00:46 • CerseiQueen • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

A lot of 6 but zero 8

19 Aug 2024 05:38 • Poposita • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Its a shame to represent Statistics just like some RNG, having a red number and not tossing it after 15 minutes of play and after +10 rounds

28 Aug 2024 11:07 • Hk2909 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

imgur.com/a/bMcFIjA
even a 12 appeared more often than a 9?
The dice seems center for the Chinese guy.You should check if he hack or not.But this game is totally not fair for me and the one in the third place.I hope you can recover my elo because you know how hard it is to gain it at my point!

31 Aug 2024 17:19 • LeQuadraGameur • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Table #556844476

Dices roll to "8" 6 times in a row

2 Sep 2024 07:26 • leosiu430 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

擲骰：2 的比率 (~3%)
3
擲骰：3 的比率 (~6%)
5
擲骰：4 的比率 (~8%)
5
擲骰：5 的比率 (~11%)
11
擲骰：6 的比率 (~14%)
8
擲骰：7 的比率 (~17%)
16
擲骰：8 的比率 (~14%)
18
擲骰：9 的比率 (~11%)
11
擲骰：10 的比率 (~8%)
10
擲骰：11 的比率 (~6%)
11
擲骰：12 的比率 (~3%)
2

9 Sep 2024 11:01 • Pogretskiy • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Hello, dear developers. Either you do not get suggestions and complaints about the problem related to the statistics of falling dice, or you deliberately ignore this problem.

After all, many people have already come to you with this problem. I'm sure everyone you ask in this game will support me.

Change the algorithms for the drop-out numbers. If you haven't found a specialist who can do it for so many years, hire him in the labor market.

I like everything in this game, except for the incorrectly written program for the drop of numbers on the cube.

I hope you won't ignore my message.

Thank you for understanding.

PS create a questionnaire on this problem and you will understand how serious it is.

27 Sep 2024 06:23 • Lucatan777 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

100% catan dice is not random. I have played many times, in the version for free. Whenever I have more than 7 cards in catan basic, the dice shows 7 most of the time for me or for any of the players. I understand it is because I am playing the game for free, and the dice favors the people that are paying for the game in the website. However, it does not exaclty resemble a real game.

1 Oct 2024 16:30 • amelia0501 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I am playing this game with one player rolling 7 for 80% of his rolling. It does not make sense.

18 Oct 2024 18:13 • Jamo77 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

The DICE coding is poor, and I can expect a few inconsistent games. but to have #3 roll 7 times and #6 roll 4 times, while #8 & #5 roll 21 times!!! and #7 role 18 times

FIX IT!

23 Oct 2024 12:13 • hokahokapants • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

boardgamearena.com/table?table=579244215

Hey guys, please see that result.
Half rolls in all rolls are 6.

Dices logic is poor, it makes the games more boring.

If developer didn't fix it, game players would be decreasing.

23 Oct 2024 23:06 • gecko8989 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Hello devs,
Please look into dice randomization and cluster
There is 2 main topics on the forum on this subject. Both agrees that dice are not Randoms.
I have put more info on the 2nd topics in the forum - 170+ up votes
If you add both topics together you got a major subjecta

23 Oct 2024 23:07 • gecko8989 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

imgur.com/a/Lcsh4Kb

7 Nov 2024 21:21 • ElektraA1 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

the data statistics are very bad, it seems that the site decides which numbers will be the best in that game. Even if I choose the best loot, with the best numbers, if one of those numbers is not the "lucky number" it will never fall. I just played a game in which the numbers 12 and 3 fell on the dice more than the number 5, for example.

In some games there are lucky numbers, like 4 or 10, for example. These are numbers that fall into the dice all the time, even more than 6 and 8. And some numbers (which should fall more frequently, like 5) fall very rarely. I know that the numbers with the lowest probabilities must fall at some point in the game, but I think it's ridiculous that their frequency in a match is greater than the best numbers

15 Nov 2024 14:16 • dUnderdog • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Only 6s in this game

16 Nov 2024 09:28 • SvenOver • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

28% out of 45 dice rolls were 8's in this game...: boardgamearena.com/11/catan?table=589594816

Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 2 (~3%)
4
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 3 (~6%)
7
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 4 (~8%)
11
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 5 (~11%)
11
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 6 (~14%)
11
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 7 (~17%)
11
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 8 (~14%)
28
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 9 (~11%)
13
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 10 (~8%)
2
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 11 (~6%)
2
Dobbelsteenworp: ratio van 12 (~3%)
0

17 Nov 2024 19:42 • sahasrabudhe • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

The same number keeps getting rolled again and again! Please check the game number, this is ridiculous

17 Nov 2024 23:29 • yfimc • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

it’s frustrating that so many responses are dismissive and condescending. it would be nice if the devs would share the full statistics if they want to prove that it’s really random because it really doesn’t feel like it

23 Nov 2024 16:54 • Coisinho • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

There is no way i'm in my third game in a row (with 5-6-8-9 production) and loosing awfully to someone with double 10 or double 4 or double 3/11, check your dice statistics! How come a 6 comes out less than half the times a 10 or a 3 after 200 plays. At some point it becomes statistically impossible to happen.

13 Dec 2024 20:17 • Hollowbody_24 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

agree, weird dice, like the system preffer only better ELO, best more 200
also 2 players always 10, 14 cards, me 6---no 7, first i becomme 9 card, then come 7 every time.

about 1 win game /40 loose

18 Dec 2024 21:36 • Kanamechan • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

boardgamearena.com/8/catan?table=603475676

Dice roll: percentage of 2 (~4%)
3
Dice roll: percentage of 3 (~13%)
10
Dice roll: percentage of 4 (~7%)
5
Dice roll: percentage of 5 (~12%)
9
Dice roll: percentage of 6 (~13%)
10
Dice roll: percentage of 7 (~20%)
15
Dice roll: percentage of 8 (~11%)
5
Dice roll: percentage of 9 (~11%)
8
Dice roll: percentage of 10 (0%)
0
Dice roll: percentage of 11 (~9%)
7
Dice roll: percentage of 12 (~4%)
3

20 Dec 2024 07:21 • nivii • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Dice roll: percentage of 2 (~3%)

Dice roll: percentage of 3 (~6%)

Dice roll: percentage of 4 (~8%)

Dice roll: percentage of 5 (~11%)

Dice roll: percentage of 6 (~14%)

Dice roll: percentage of 7 (~17%)

Dice roll: percentage of 8 (~14%)

Dice roll: percentage of 9 (~11%)

Dice roll: percentage of 10 (~8%)

Dice roll: percentage of 11 (~6%)

Dice roll: percentage of 12 (~3%)

28 Dec 2024 16:57 • ikfitkus • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

too many 10

30 Dec 2024 19:40 • ikfitkus • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

too many 5 dice

1 Jan 2025 01:39 • mlm1111 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

The same number is rolled over and over and over again yet you do not fix this bug. In this game the 9 and 11 were rolled every round to the benefit of 1 player in particular and eventually to the 2 players, I sat for 4 rounds without a 5, 8, 10, 4 and this happened several times where you sit with numbers that should roll while they roll 9, 11, 12 numbers that should not roll, till there was no hope. This happens frequently in this game yet when you lose they take 12 to 15 points when you had no control or strategy that will work. I see this complaint multiple times yet you do not fix this bug. 1 player is normally always benefited from the constant roll of 1 number. In the case of this game it was 9 and secondly 11, definitely against all odds. I have seen it do this with 3's, and this time it rolled 12 three times to the benefit of the same player. I quit playing this game for that reason and have tried to find a better place to play this game on line. I enjoy the game and keep coming back but the frustration drives me away time and again.

3 Jan 2025 16:18 • ikfitkus • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

too many 6s.

5 Jan 2025 23:07 • ikfitkus • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

no 10 never presents

10 Jan 2025 14:08 • KCHAUs • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Please explain what is going on with the Katana game? It's just impossible! The dice in 9 out of 10 games throws the most bad numbers for me! You'll write that it's all an accident, but it's absolutely not! The casino has a fairer chance of numbers falling out than yours!
As proof, I can record at least 1000 games and show you that it's true! It's just impossible to deal with it from game to game! Fix it!

12 Jan 2025 08:35 • Alaguster • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Roll distributions are terrible. They always skew high or low. Tested over 18 games and found a 2+ to 1 ratio if throughout the entirety of each game where dice are always high or always low.

19 Jan 2025 13:06 • KCHAUs • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

boardgamearena.com/table?table=617623468

check out this game! well just look! it's just terrible! this is not normal! this is clearly a mistake! The dice roll is clearly broken! and has been broken for a long time! terrible! terrible! terrible! I just don’t want to play when this happens! The number 5 came up 0 times! 0, Karl! and look how many times the number 9 appears! Let me remind you that these numbers have the same probability of being drawn! what a horror! why don't they fix it, why???

22 Jan 2025 09:04 • Malo77 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

A stat board over the current game and over all catan game, or/and over th whole BGA .. would show and close the topic about the random generator used.
Stats is meaningless over one or a few games. stats needs thousands+ of games so we can check. thanks

12 Feb 2025 17:24 • mokiran • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

8が連続して出過ぎている

12 Feb 2025 18:06 • mokiran • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

8が連続して出ている。明らかに6と同じ確率にならない

16 Feb 2025 20:32 • Sideshow Ben • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I just finished a game where 11 was rolled at least 3x more than normal and 6 was rolled maybe 5 times. Are we sure the random number generators are actually random?

20 Feb 2025 23:40 • kornackib • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Rzut kością: wynik 2 (~3%) - 2
Rzut kością: wynik 3 (~6%) - 9
Rzut kością: wynik 4 (~8%) - 9
Rzut kością: wynik 5 (~11%) - 23
Rzut kością: wynik 6 (~14%) - 7
Rzut kością: wynik 7 (~17%) - 16
Rzut kością: wynik 8 (~14%) - 21
Rzut kością: wynik 9 (~11%) - 7
Rzut kością: wynik 10 (~8%) - 5
Rzut kością: wynik 11 (~6%) - 2
Rzut kością: wynik 12 (~3%) - 0

That 5... 3x the 6...

24 Feb 2025 19:36 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Three 2s rolled before the first 6, 5, 9 or 10.
boardgamearena.com/13/catan?table=635075425

25 Mar 2025 23:50 • tarasmushyi • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I am writing to bring to your attention an unusual statistical outcome that occurred during a recent session involving 101 rolls of two standard six-sided dice (2d6). Specifically, the sum of 3 appeared 13 times, which struck me as highly improbable and prompted a closer statistical analysis.

Based on probability theory, the chance of rolling a sum of 3 with two fair dice is 2 out of 36, or approximately 5.56%. Given 101 rolls, the expected number of occurrences of a sum of 3 would be roughly:

E = 101 \times 0.0556 \approx 5.61

The standard deviation (σ) for such a binomial distribution is:

\sigma = \sqrt{n \cdot p \cdot (1 - p)} \approx \sqrt{101 \cdot 0.0556 \cdot 0.9444} \approx 2.30

This gives a realistic interval for the expected number of occurrences, within ±2σ, as:

[5.61 - 4.60 , 5.61 + 4.60] = [1.01 , 10.21]

The observed value of 13 falls well outside this 95% confidence interval, raising the statistical suspicion of either a highly unlikely outcome or a potential irregularity.

To be precise, the probability of exactly 13 occurrences of sum 3 in 101 fair dice rolls is approximately:

\boxed{0.124\%} \text{ (or 1 in 806)}

While not impossible, this is statistically very rare, and such a deviation could indicate:

A flaw or bias in the random number generator (if digital),

A physical irregularity with the dice (if analogue),

Or simply a highly improbable natural variance — which should ideally not be this extreme.

Given the significance of such a deviation, I would kindly ask your team to verify the integrity of the dice logic or any RNG mechanisms used during this session. I’m not implying wrongdoing — I simply want to ensure that fairness and trust are maintained.

Thank you in advance for your time, attention, and any insights you can provide.

26 Mar 2025 21:12 • Dejvowsky • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

The number system of dice in this game has been an unfunny joke for a very long time and no one is doing anything about it.
The whole idea of the game makes no sense because no strategy matters, only randomness.
Is this starting to approach gambling games which are probably illegal?

28 Mar 2025 13:16 • lGurul • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

This dice statistic is just math near imposible. I had my strategy around 6 and 10. They BOTH happens almost same number of times as 2 (!!!!!) Its just insanly bad feeling to play this game just pass every turn cause u cant even trade or stuff. And u didnt choose bad strategy - its just dice is broken.
Table game
#650604190

Кубики: частота 2 (~3%)
8
Кубики: частота 3 (~6%)
5
Кубики: частота 4 (~8%)
12
Кубики: частота 5 (~11%)
9
Кубики: частота 6 (~14%)
6
Кубики: частота 7 (~17%)
15
Кубики: частота 8 (~14%)
14
Кубики: частота 9 (~11%)
15
Кубики: частота 10 (~8%)
3
Кубики: частота 11 (~6%)
6
Кубики: частота 12 (~3%)
8

30 Mar 2025 04:05 • fearofthequark • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

boardgamearena.com/5/catan?table=651401024

Watch the replay of this game.... I noted the dice throws of this game:
7, 5, 5, 8, 4, 8, 12, 11, 8, 11, 4, 8, 8, 7, 10, 9,
8, 5, 5, 10, 10, 8, 5, 9, 7, 7, 3, 6, 9,

6 came only ONE time... I was the host. My opponents were on the fields: 4, 5, 8, 9 and 10 ...
I was on 3, 6, 10, 11

But if at another game I set my house to the field number 8 there would not be many 8's... I don't know but I think the host is sabotaged in this game...

30 Mar 2025 10:41 • rakshi05 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

High number of 8 rolled

3 Apr 2025 05:23 • cboers18 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

@tarasmushyi Thank you for the detailed analysis. It is rare for a Catan game to have 101 rolls. Rather, the stats provided at the end of the game indicate percentage of 8s rolled, for example, and not the absolute number of 8s rolled. This will change your analysis.

27 Apr 2025 20:37 • raccooni • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Was playing catan today and the dice statistics are way off what they should be it really skewed who was able to win. There was probably 5x as many 4s being rolled as 6s, and at one point 7 was rolled 3 times in a row. How are you supposed to play a fair game like this? Honestly, not going to be playing catan anymore on this website for this reason.

30 Apr 2025 01:07 • ssupernova • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I've played several games lately where an 8 or a 6 get rolled only a handful of times while an 11 or a 3 get rolled at LEAST once per round. There was even one game where a 12 got rolled more than a 6. Seems like the statistics are way off on some games.

27 May 2025 23:05 • YkkeMachado • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

tenho percebido em diversas mesas do CATAN que há muita repetição de resultados nos dados.
É uma reclamação constante pelos outros jogadores e minha também.

Frustra a jogabilidade aos desfavorecidos que praticamente nem chegam a realizar qualquer ação no jogo.

29 May 2025 14:25 • NPC333 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

the dice results don't seem to be truly random, seems like it's skewed in favor of premium players. can't really play the game due to no resources and it is not an isolated incident, happened in all the games.

5 Jun 2025 02:37 • emperorTikki • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Yes, please adjust the rng - its seems off. there are many other good options that ensure a more normal distribution. too many games have streaks of numbers that impact the game

5 Jul 2025 22:31 • 75827 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Since I couldn't roll 5 numbers in 28 tries, I think the administrator should also be informed about the beauty of this game.

In almost every game, due to peculiar coincidences, certain numbers appear very frequently for some players during the game; there was a game where the number 3 was the most frequently rolled number.

f5 does not help

16 Jul 2025 20:44 • Skult • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Something is severely wrong with RNG in this game. We tried to play 3 times but couldn't finish any of the games because of how often 7 (aka "move the robber") was rolled. It was literally every second roll or more, across tens of rolls (mind you, the real chance should be 1/6). Unplayable, unfortunately

20 Jul 2025 18:27 • alicet0w0 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I'm not sure if any updates recently? I observed that the dice became very unrealistic and unfair. In Game #703743900, Even 3 and 11 rolled more times than 6. And 6 has only been rolled 6 times in the whole 481 steps game. Does it even make sense? Please fix it so it makes sense. I think the previous version is more reasonable.

14 Aug 2025 08:15 • Klaushoxha56 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I would like to add that in a quite a few games I have experienced astronomically poor results such as in a game of 500 dice rolls the number 5 only appeared 5 times. which is like tossing a coin 60 times and getting heads every time. it can happen but its a one in a billon chance of happening, everyone is unhappy about the dice I think a decent solution would to be to remove these statical anomalies all together for when for example when an even like this happens the game rolls the number that has been rolled with a percentage much lower than it is expected. this would make it so you can sort of predict when a number will be rolled but the effect shouldn't break the game more than it is already broken.

14 Aug 2025 11:08 • selfmike • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Table id #714958483 (catan)

I am writing to bring to your attention some statistical irregularities observed in the dice rolls on your platform, and to suggest improvements to ensure fairness and transparency. As an avid player who appreciates BGA’s offerings, I believe it’s important for the integrity of the games that the random number generation be truly random and perceived as such by the community.

Issue Summary: Recently, I analyzed the outcomes of dice rolls in one of Catan. In a sample of 100 two-dice rolls, the distribution of sums was markedly different from the expected probabilities for fair six-sided dice. Notably, the sum of 9 appeared 22 times (22% of all rolls), which is about double its fair expected rate (~11%). Conversely, the traditionally most common outcome 7 appeared only 9 times (9%), roughly half of its expected frequency (~17%). Other numbers like 11 were also scarce (only 3 occurrences, vs ~6 expected). In a fair scenario, such large deviations are highly unlikely to occur purely by chance.

Statistical Test: To quantify this, I performed a chi-square goodness-of-fit test on the observed distribution. The test returned a chi-square statistic of ~17.3 with 10 degrees of freedom, corresponding to a p-value of about 0.068 (6.8%). In plain terms, if the dice were fair, there is only around a 7% probability of seeing a discrepancy this extreme in 100 rolls. This is an unusually low probability. While it does not definitively prove a bias (conventionally one might use a 5% threshold), it certainly suggests that the dice outcomes are not following the expected random pattern. The results are borderline significant and, combined with the specific nature of the deviations (extreme overrepresentation of one number and underrepresentation of another), they point toward a potential problem in the number generator.

Impact on Gameplay: Such skewed results can have a real impact on games. For example, in Settlers of Catan (a game on BGA that uses two-dice rolls), a player who built on 9s would unexpectedly have a huge advantage in the scenario above, whereas a player relying on 6s or 8s (normally good numbers) or 7s for the robber would be disadvantaged. Over many games, if the dice roller systematically favors certain outcomes, it could affect players’ long-term success and their trust in the platform’s fairness.

Clustering and Possible Cause: The pattern observed (e.g., 9s coming up far too often) might indicate an issue with the random number generation algorithm. One possibility is that the method used to generate or seed random numbers is introducing bias. For instance, if the RNG is seeded with the current time for each roll or not sufficiently randomized, it can lead to “clustering” of certain results. While I don’t have direct insight into your code, the data suggests it’s worth investigating the RNG implementation for any flaws or biases. Even high-quality PRNGs can produce anomalies if misused (such as seeding too frequently or with low entropy).

Community Concern: Browsing the Board Game Arena community forums, one finds numerous reports from players questioning the randomness of dice rolls. The experiences I’ve quantified seem to align with what others have been sensing anecdotally. This is creating a perception problem – some players believe the dice may be “rigged” or not truly random. I’m sure this is not the intention, and that BGA strives for fairness, which is why I trust you will treat this seriously.

Recommendations: I respectfully urge the development team to take the following actions:
• Audit and Fix the RNG: Please conduct an internal review of the dice-roll generation algorithm. If any bug or bias is found (for example, a seeding issue or an out-of-date random library), updating it could resolve these anomalies. Using a well-regarded random number generator (with proper seeding) would ensure each outcome is independent and uniformly distributed as expected.
• Increase Transparency: Consider sharing details about how random outcomes are generated on BGA. Knowing that a robust method (like a tested pseudorandom algorithm or hardware RNG) is in use, and understanding how it’s seeded, would help the community trust the results. Even publishing aggregate dice roll statistics periodically could demonstrate that, over the long run, the rolls are fair. Transparency can go a long way to alleviate players’ concerns.
• Ensure Fair Play: If the investigation confirms an issue, please address it promptly (and let the community know when it’s fixed). Fair randomization is a cornerstone of board gaming – every number should have an equal chance in the long run. Also, if no issue is found (i.e., if this was a rare fluke), providing a detailed explanation or data to back the fairness of the system would be very helpful. It’s important for players to see that fairness is taken seriously and rigorously verified.

In closing, I want to emphasize that I deeply enjoy Board Game Arena and appreciate the work your team does to bring board games to a wide audience. My goal in writing this is to help maintain the high quality and integrity of the gaming experience on your platform. I believe that responding to these dice randomness concerns will ultimately strengthen player confidence and the reputation of BGA.

Thank you for your time and attention to this matter. I am happy to provide the data or calculations I used in my analysis, if that would be useful. Please let me know if there are any questions.

18 Aug 2025 16:43 • selfmike • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

No 10th, just a bunch of 5th
Remaining development cards
23
Dice roll: percentage of 2 (~3%)
0
Dice roll: percentage of 3 (~6%)
9
Dice roll: percentage of 4 (~8%)
14
Dice roll: percentage of 5 (~11%)
26
Dice roll: percentage of 6 (~14%)
16
Dice roll: percentage of 7 (~17%)
7
Dice roll: percentage of 8 (~14%)
12
Dice roll: percentage of 9 (~11%)
12
Dice roll: percentage of 10 (~8%)
0
Dice roll: percentage of 11 (~6%)
2
Dice roll: percentage of 12 (~3%)
2

6 Sep 2025 11:56 • tipografico • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

I play Settlers of Catan quite often, and I have to hand it to your “random” system—it has a real talent for targeting specific players. Somehow, the dice always manage to roll the numbers I don’t own. If I’m on an 8, you can bet the 6 will show up ten times more often. And if the robber happens to be sitting on one of my resource tiles? Voilà—that number magically appears like clockwork.
Statistically speaking, the results are so improbable they’re almost impressive. It’s as if the system isn’t random at all, but rather… let’s say, “creatively guided” to make sure certain players suffer.
Since I pay the same as everyone else, I’d really appreciate it if the “randomizer” could stop holding a personal grudge against me. Thanks in advance.

11 Sep 2025 07:26 • murabito2525 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

Please explain how random the dice rolls are in this game. Rolling four or more 3s in a row is clear evidence that the dice are biased.

17 Sep 2025 19:55 • pierniczkikocham_rab • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

2 (~3%) 8
3 (~6%) 17
4 (~8%) 5
5 (~11%) 12
6 (~14%) 10
7 (~17%) 18
8 (~14%) 12
9 (~11%) 7
10 (~8%) 7
11 (~6%) 3
12 (~3%) 2

There is definitely a issue with the dice engine „3” came more often then „6” of „8” Please do something with it

23 Sep 2025 21:54 • obviousowl • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

unnatural dice rolls

5 Oct 2025 21:54 • Wentu • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

selfmike... there have been 6,177,172 games of Catan to this day. 6.8% of this is 420047. So there have been so far 420047 games more strange and unexpected than yours so far... I don't see this as outrageous.
Shouldn't we take all games, put together all the numbers of all the 6M+ games and see that distribution instead of just a few cases?

5 Oct 2025 22:14 • Wentu • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

There's another important aspect of your analysis Selfmike that it is important to consider, I guess.

"To apply a Chi-Square test, data must be in frequency counts of categorical variables, observations must be independent and from a simple random sample, and all expected frequencies must be at least 1, with at least 80% of expected frequencies being 5 or greater to ensure reliable results"

If you take 65 throws, the 2,3,11 and 12 are all expected less than 5 times.
How many turns were there in your analysis? And... did you consider the provided percentages or did you scale them to the real number of throws?

I agree that all tihs matter should be investigated.

On one side, there seems to be a LOT of anecdotal stuff... only people disgruntled with their games are writing here, it is not a good sample. On the other hand, I also find it strange that BGA simply answers "don't worry, we are doing things the correct way and you are just whining". It is not satisfactory.

I tend to think the numbers are OK, but I'd like a better and sounder approach.

My approach would be:
1) given a distribution of throws after a game, calculate how much was the probability of getting it
2) calculate how many possible distribution where more unlikely than that one
3) calculate how many possible distribution there are in all for a game with T turns (this is easy)
4) See if the given distribution really is one of the more unlikely or not.
5) Do this for all the 6M games (some steps don't need to be repeated, of course) and see if we really have something fishy going on.

Once again, some of the posted numbers do seem "strange" but there have been 6M games... you are bound to find strange distributions of dice sometimes! If I see a game with 65 turns and all 65 turns there have been only 2 and 12, that's surely wrong. So far, I haven't seen something that seems surely wrong

20 Oct 2025 19:06 • Spaceman8916 • Os desenvolvedores gostariam de mais informações sobre essa sugestão:

zero 5's and only three 6's out of 102 results feels highly suspicious to me. This was my friends game they sent to me and I had a similar game yesterday where only two 5's rolled the entire time. Worth investigating?

imgur.com/a/3xX35SZ

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