#37521: "Is it ok to mislead the other players through the chat? "
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• Por favor copie e cole a mensagem de erro que aparece na tela, se possível.
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• Por favor explique o que queria fazer, o que fez e o que aconteceu
It's about the activity from chat!
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
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• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se você tiver uma captura de tela desse bug (boa prática), pode usar um serviço de hospedagem de imagens de sua escolha (por exemplo, snipboard.io) para enviá-la e copiar/colar o link aqui. Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
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• O que estava presente na tela quando você estava bloqueado (tela em branco? Parte da imagem do jogo? Mensagem de erro?)
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
It's about the activity from chat!
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
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• Qual era a ação de jogo que queria fazer?
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• O que você tentou fazer para provocar esta ação de jogo?
It's about the activity from chat!
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• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer isto(mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
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• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer essa ação de jogo (mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
It's about the activity from chat!
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
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• Por favor descreva o problema de visualização. Se você tiver uma captura de tela desse bug (boa prática), pode usar um serviço de hospedagem de imagens de sua escolha (por exemplo, snipboard.io) para enviá-la e copiar/colar o link aqui.
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se você tiver uma captura de tela desse bug (boa prática), pode usar um serviço de hospedagem de imagens de sua escolha (por exemplo, snipboard.io) para enviá-la e copiar/colar o link aqui. Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v89
Histórico do relatório
EugeneLiapin dream team 12:47 PM
red is sub 12:47 PM
EugeneLiapinno sub? 12:52 PM
EugeneLiapin what is up? 12:53 PM
ANDN r u serios? 12:54 PM
Liza Fox Patronus What's the top? 12:54 PM
EugeneLiapin what is on top> 12:54 PM
ANDN i don't think this is how we have to play 12:55 PM
EugeneLiapin this is exately how to play 12:55 PM
where schould we dig? 12:55 PM
ANDN i'll investigate the rules! 12:56 PM
EugeneLiapin good luck with that 12:56 PM
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EugeneLiapin i think yellow is sub 01:18 PM
ANDN i think you are and i also think you play against the rules! 01:19 PM
EugeneLiapin gosh 01:19 PM
check the rules 01:19 PM
ANDN i will. i don't think you are allowed to mislead the other players by this chat. 01:20 PM
EugeneLiapin i am not mislead anyone 01:20 PM
i communicate 01:20 PM
that is the point of the game 01:20 PM
Liza Fox Patronus Top is gold, guys. Anyone who is not a saboteur, please, help to find it 01:20 PM
lailaion Fix me please 01:21 PM
EugeneLiapin yellow, i think you dont get the point of the game, but l do like your style 01:22 PM
i just get the whole bunch of good mood 01:22 PM
thank you, my friend 01:22 PM
Because it would make no sense to allow a player to declare having a role he does not have, without allowing the players to claim the role corresponding to the card received.
When it comes to banning verbal exchanges between players, that would have nothing to do with the rule that says nothing about it.
I suppose that Saboteur was extensively tested before being marketed, and a negligence of the author on an issue as essential as the exchange of information between players seems to me excluded in the absence of evidence to the contrary.
Your bug has probably been fixed already, or was linked to a temporary failure of BGA service.
In any case, when filling a bug report, make sure to have an explicit title linked to the incident (ex: with error message), so other players can recognize it and vote for it.
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