#29010: "Allow turn-based tournament to use "+X hours per turn" game speeds"
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Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
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Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Mozilla v5
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Mozilla v5
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Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Mozilla v5
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
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Mozilla v5
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• Qual era a ação de jogo que queria fazer?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• O que você tentou fazer para provocar esta ação de jogo?
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Mozilla v5
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• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer essa ação de jogo (mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Mozilla v5
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Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Mozilla v5
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• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se você tiver uma captura de tela desse bug (boa prática), pode usar um serviço de hospedagem de imagens de sua escolha (por exemplo, snipboard.io) para enviá-la e copiar/colar o link aqui. Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Mozilla v5
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Mozilla v5
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If players could be matched by time zone initially, I think that would go a long way towards fair tournament play.
It's not a good representation of my attention to the game, even if I am playing well. I didn't understand this about tournament play and will be unlikely to join tournaments in the future. It's too bad this hasn't been fixed yet.
Someone who runs out of time should still get kicked from the game.
Let's take an example. You play 2 turns per day on average, and you enter a game that lasts about 20 moves per player :
Scenario A : you enter a simple game at 2 turns / day. You're fine, you know you'll never run our of time. How fast your opponent plays doesn't matter.
Scenario B : you enter a 7 days per player tournament game. Here the outcome varies A LOT depending on how fast your opponent plays :
- If your opponent is very active, their time will almost never tick. After slightly more than 7 days, you run out of time while having played only about 14 moves out of 20
- If your opponent is as active as you, or even a bit less, the game may last 10 days, or a bit more, but none of the player will run out of time.
This way of counting time was designed and is fine for real time, because as soon as your opponent plays, your thinking time starts. In turn based, what starts when your opponent plays is, most of the time, not thinking time but idle time for you. This system does not reward players who think fast, it rewards player willing to stop what they're doing in real life and connect to play more often.
Is this the kind of behaviour BGA wants to encourage from their players ?
IE. If game length set to 15 days - it would still end at 15 days, but within that each player would get +time each time they take a turn to ensure that they don't go into the red on time as long as they're still playing - instead of the current system where the time just ticks-down and no new time ever gets added.
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