#167071: "Colonoies: Order of operations wrong when trading on Pluto."
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• Por favor copie e cole a mensagem de erro que aparece na tela, se possível.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Por favor explique o que queria fazer, o que fez e o que aconteceu
413
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Opera 118.0.5461.41
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When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
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413
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Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• O que estava presente na tela quando você estava bloqueado (tela em branco? Parte da imagem do jogo? Mensagem de erro?)
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
413
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Qual era a ação de jogo que queria fazer?
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• O que você tentou fazer para provocar esta ação de jogo?
413
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• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer isto(mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer essa ação de jogo (mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
413
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Por favor descreva o problema de visualização. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
413
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
Histórico do relatório
Opponent first drew his trade bonus (move 412). Not sure if they clicked on that option or Whatever button.
screenshot: imgur.com/a/jTWHUUn
The same happened to me at table 663278761. Opponenent said he clicked on Draw cards (trade bonus) and after he drew them, the selection automatically jumped to me.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=663278761
Quite annoying TBH.
I.e. main player chose order of operation which also chooses when other player draw. But all discards of other plalyer are queue up at the end of that player action
Also I made colony bonus non optional (i.e. draw->discard is not optional you have to take it)
With 2 colonies on Pluto, I now get both of my draws before my discards. This is wrong. I must draw first, discard after, then draw again and discard after. I may not see the 2nd card before deciding what to discard. This makes multiple Pluto colonies even stronger.
Another thing, didn't experience pluto trading as active player yet, but as non-active yes, in two games and it is now very confusing. Basically you come to game where there is your turn. And you are asked to discard a card. You got a card automatically, but you are not really notified about that (except the log of course), so you might not notice a new card and wonder why you should just discard.
What is even worse, when you come to game where there is your turn, you automatically expect you are going to play a card. So we are getting into very dangerous situation, where people think they are playing a card, but in fact you are discarding it! I know it is written on the top what action you are doing, but since you didn't trigger it in any way (unlike Mars University), then it is very tricky and it will cause a lot of troubles, especially in turn based games.
For any player who received a new card during someone else's Pluto trade - a popup button that says, "you received a new card from Pluto. Confirm and then discard one card" that must actually be clicked before the discard can be selected?
Then I have to hit the button (no "skip" shenanigans as before) and then I draw and must immediately discard.
This removes all the problems.
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