#157470: "Make ELO fairer more consistently for lower ranked players in "Century: Spice Road""
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I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. -
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I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. -
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I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. • Qual navegador você está usando?
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I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. • Qual navegador você está usando?
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. -
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I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. -
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I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. -
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I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Brave
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• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. -
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I think the ELO system takes too many points sometimes from players in the 100 to 300 range when they play against higher ranked players. For example, my rating is around 400 right now; in my most recent game, my opponent entered with ELO of 135. When she lost, she was penalized 11 points of ELO while I gained about 4. It seems like she also should only lose 4, because a loss is natural under that circumstance. She should gain 11 or more if she beats me, and I should lose 11 or more if she beats me. In other words, the expected result should produce only a small change, while an unexpected result should produce a large change., and the two players should experience a change of similar size, I think. Why should the weaker player unfairly suffer more just for producing the expected result? (I've never seen how the formula works. If I'm missing the logic here, maybe post the ELO formula where it can be understood.)
By eye, it seems like sometimes the ELO penalizes the lower player too much, but sometimes it treats them fairly, as fairly is described above. Does the formula change from time to time by accident? If so, maybe the settings can be stabilized. • Qual navegador você está usando?
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Histórico do relatório
I haven't tracked this precisely - I am reporting based on what I've noticed, but have not written down specific cases. I just pulled the table number from my history and otherwise am going by memory. I have seen this happen several times.
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