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#127847: "Simultaneous Actions"
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Regras: uma regra do jogo não foi respeitada
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
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Histórico do relatório
19 jun 2024 13:09 • tchobello • Bug não foi reproduzido pela equipa de desenvolvimento ainda:
Ca fausse le jeu...
9 jul 2024 17:06 • e314 • Bug não foi reproduzido pela equipa de desenvolvimento ainda:
It's a part of the game that's quite impractial IRL (need a way to hide choiecs and reveal them all at the same time...), but on BGA, we could wait until all players have selected their technologies before sharing that information to others (both on the board and in the logs)
This is mostly critical for phase A and E, but could apply to all phases to avoid edge cases (mostly related to trying to get first place in military power)
This is mostly critical for phase A and E, but could apply to all phases to avoid edge cases (mostly related to trying to get first place in military power)
27 ago 2024 15:32 • Phoxtrot • Bug não foi reproduzido pela equipa de desenvolvimento ainda:
Example: #544308061 , move #92
imgur.com/YespSae
This is round 9 and in the screenshot, I can see what my opponent has chosen for his techs before I had to choose mine. As a result, I can estimate what his military strength will be and tailor mine accordingly. (I can increase my military but that costs me points in other areas so I want to do it only if gets me the crucial military points needed for bigger gain).
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My take on this:
The example shows that waiting for the other players to play is a serious advantage in some situations and this can be really detrimental to fairness and or speed of play, especially in turn-based mode.
I know that it is likely very difficult to change at this stage but it would be very beneficial to do so.
On the other hand, we should see what tech cards everyone has when they are not (seen as) placed.
The best, IMO, for phase A would be as follow:
- Display which techs are owned by everyone but not where they are placed
- Once a player has placed their techs, let them change their mind as long as the game is still waiting for someone (it's annoying to realize you made a mistake or a sub-optimal play but be unable to change while waiting potentially for 2 days for someone else to play...)
- Once everyone is done, reveal where everyone has placed their techs.
Many games with simultaneous turns do function like this.
I also think this is really the way the game is intended to be played IRL so this might actually be seen as a bug even though there is no explicit rule about peeking in the rulebook
Forum discussion:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38358
imgur.com/YespSae
This is round 9 and in the screenshot, I can see what my opponent has chosen for his techs before I had to choose mine. As a result, I can estimate what his military strength will be and tailor mine accordingly. (I can increase my military but that costs me points in other areas so I want to do it only if gets me the crucial military points needed for bigger gain).
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My take on this:
The example shows that waiting for the other players to play is a serious advantage in some situations and this can be really detrimental to fairness and or speed of play, especially in turn-based mode.
I know that it is likely very difficult to change at this stage but it would be very beneficial to do so.
On the other hand, we should see what tech cards everyone has when they are not (seen as) placed.
The best, IMO, for phase A would be as follow:
- Display which techs are owned by everyone but not where they are placed
- Once a player has placed their techs, let them change their mind as long as the game is still waiting for someone (it's annoying to realize you made a mistake or a sub-optimal play but be unable to change while waiting potentially for 2 days for someone else to play...)
- Once everyone is done, reveal where everyone has placed their techs.
Many games with simultaneous turns do function like this.
I also think this is really the way the game is intended to be played IRL so this might actually be seen as a bug even though there is no explicit rule about peeking in the rulebook
Forum discussion:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38358
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Por favor, adicione aqui qualquer coisa que pareça relevante para a reprodução deste bug ou o entendimento de sua sugestão:
- Outro ID de mesa / ID de jogada
- Carregar em F5 resolveu o problema?
- O problema aparece várias vezes? Sempre? Imprevisivelmente?
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