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#121287: "separate second and third person strings"
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Tradução Perdida: parte do texto mostrado está em inglês em vez da minha lingua
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Game is crazily difficult to translate because the second and third person strings are the same.
${actplayer} may ${available_actions}
${you} may ${available_actions}
In many (I dare risk: most) languages, the verbs change form in first, second, third etc persons.
Whenever we translate any "actions", they either work for "you" or "active player" but they don't work for both.• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
This doesn't seem to be a problem for other games, as strings are separated per person.
It would be appreciated if strings could be duplicated, permitting the translation.• Qual navegador você está usando?
Mozilla v5
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17 abr 2024 23:26 • darhf • A equipa de desenvolvimento pede mais informação para reproduzir o bug:
I think I get what you mean, but can you give a practical example in any language you know ?
17 abr 2024 23:51 • maifosz • A equipa de desenvolvimento pede mais informação para reproduzir o bug:
Sure, see Hungarian with King of Tokio example:
${you} can change mimicked card for 1[Energy]
${you}Lecserélheted a leutánzott kártyát 1[Energy]-ért
${actplayer} can change mimicked card for 1[Energy]
${actplayer} lecserélheti a leutánzott kártyát 1[Energy]-ért
Verb endings (lecserélheted/lecserélheti) differ in second and third person. There's no singular option that would work in both cases.
KoT is a good example as the translation strings are very well tokenized. It accepts the reality that languages may have different word order or other rules.
${you} can change mimicked card for 1[Energy]
${you}Lecserélheted a leutánzott kártyát 1[Energy]-ért
${actplayer} can change mimicked card for 1[Energy]
${actplayer} lecserélheti a leutánzott kártyát 1[Energy]-ért
Verb endings (lecserélheted/lecserélheti) differ in second and third person. There's no singular option that would work in both cases.
KoT is a good example as the translation strings are very well tokenized. It accepts the reality that languages may have different word order or other rules.
18 abr 2024 0:23 • darhf • A equipa de desenvolvimento pede mais informação para reproduzir o bug:
yes but both versions (the one with ${you} and the one with ${actplayer}) exist in the translation system, so Looot can be translated the same way as above.
Or there's something missing ?
Or there's something missing ?
18 abr 2024 8:11 • maifosz • A equipa de desenvolvimento pede mais informação para reproduzir o bug:
No, they both reference the same string, e.g.
${actplayer} may ${available_actions}
${you} may ${available_actions}
"available actions" would be "play X, do Y" etc. But in second and third person, "available actions" would have to be written differently. It's actually the same in English except that "may" here doesn't change form. "May" doesn't exist in many other languages, it would become part of the verb as a suffix.
In English you would say:
{you} play a card
{active player} plays a card
But in this game, {you} and {active player} both call in the same unchanged string, available actions.
${actplayer} may ${available_actions}
${you} may ${available_actions}
"available actions" would be "play X, do Y" etc. But in second and third person, "available actions" would have to be written differently. It's actually the same in English except that "may" here doesn't change form. "May" doesn't exist in many other languages, it would become part of the verb as a suffix.
In English you would say:
{you} play a card
{active player} plays a card
But in this game, {you} and {active player} both call in the same unchanged string, available actions.
18 abr 2024 15:29 • darhf • Bug confirmado pela equipa de desenvolvimento:
ok.
I don't know if I can do two versions of the actions in the action list AND make it clear to translators, but I'll look into it.
Thanks for the precisions !
I don't know if I can do two versions of the actions in the action list AND make it clear to translators, but I'll look into it.
Thanks for the precisions !
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