#106382: "Skipping a player out of time is heavily exploitable by players that are losing in tournaments"
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• Por favor copie e cole a mensagem de erro que aparece na tela, se possível.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• Por favor explique o que queria fazer, o que fez e o que aconteceu
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Google Chrome v119
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Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v119
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v119
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• O que estava presente na tela quando você estava bloqueado (tela em branco? Parte da imagem do jogo? Mensagem de erro?)
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v119
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v119
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• Qual era a ação de jogo que queria fazer?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• O que você tentou fazer para provocar esta ação de jogo?
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• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer isto(mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v119
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• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer essa ação de jogo (mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v119
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• Por favor descreva o problema de visualização. Se você tiver uma captura de tela desse bug (boa prática), pode usar um serviço de hospedagem de imagens de sua escolha (por exemplo, snipboard.io) para enviá-la e copiar/colar o link aqui.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v119
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• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se você tiver uma captura de tela desse bug (boa prática), pode usar um serviço de hospedagem de imagens de sua escolha (por exemplo, snipboard.io) para enviá-la e copiar/colar o link aqui. Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v119
-
• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v119
Histórico do relatório
Started a real time game. As soon as we did, Joshua got off to a bad start, and claimed that he got a phone call from work and could we please please please switch to turn-based.
That was a week ago, the game is still going and Joshua has been late every single time by hours. Sometimes days. Probably cost us all 4 days if you added up all his late time.
I am three moves from an easy victory, so it would cost me win points if the game ended now.
I agree with suggestion 1: Let the game play out without that player. Perhaps turn him into a passive drone car to complete the race, so that a losing player can't disqualify a winning player.
It already happened months ago. The race does now complete without that player. See the Heat wall here: boardgamearena.com/group?id=14686320.
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- Carregar em F5 resolveu o problema?
- O problema aparece várias vezes? Sempre? Imprevisivelmente?
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