#59777: "Sequential Animal Draw Phase Option "
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Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
Some players (myself included at times) will draw up to two solitary symbols then wait until the opponent has finished drawing to decide whether or not to draw more.
When both players do this strategy, it leads to a deadlock where neither wants to draw or declare that they are done drawing.
On BGG, the designer says that he would be ok with an "option to make the guardian animal phase done in turn order". In my mind, this suggestion would be implemented similar to Chocolate Factory, and like Chocolate Factory, this could be a setup option with the default being Simultaneous.
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If I were playing the game in real life, I think we'd either agree not to look or just force players to commit starting from the First Player marker. There are a number of games out there where it usually doesn't matter and players can perform their actions at the same time, but there's a defined order which players can use as needed. (Roll for the Galaxy has this sort of rule, but I don't know how (or if) it's implemented on BGA.)
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I don't understand the point of revealing the drawn cards while players are creating their line (no matter the competition level).
IMO, it's just flawed
- Checking what other players did doesn't seem to be the designer's intent here.
- This can lead to mentionned deadlocks. No need to play arena, if you try to win even a bit, weighting decisions is a normal thing, and knowing current risks is part of it.
- And it SPAMS the gamelog with a bunch of USELESS lines mixing "Alice draws @2#3", "Bob draws §1£1¤2", "Carl draws #2§1¤2", etc., making it barely readable
(I gave up both last times I tried to look for something in the log on this game... quite annoying)
I perfectly understand that the designer didn't initially think of this, but now that the issue is raised, why not fix it completely ?
Thanks for you opinion, but drawing simultaneously is part of the game, whether you like it or not.
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