#57959: "Giving a maximum number of cards to be held"
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Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
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Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
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Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v97
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• O que estava presente na tela quando você estava bloqueado (tela em branco? Parte da imagem do jogo? Mensagem de erro?)
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v97
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• Que parte das regras não foi respeitada pela adaptação do BGA?
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
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• A violação de regras está visível na revisão do jogo? Se sim, em que número de jogada?
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• Qual era a ação de jogo que queria fazer?
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• O que você tentou fazer para provocar esta ação de jogo?
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• Em que passo do jogo ocorre o problema(qual era a instrução corrente do jogo)?
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• O que aconteceu quando tentou fazer essa ação de jogo (mensagem de erro, mensagem na barra de estado do jogo)?
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Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v97
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• Por favor copie/cole o texto em inglês em vez de sua língua. Se tiver uma captura de ecrã/tela deste problema (boa prática), pode usar Imgur.com para carregá-la e copiar/colar o endereço aqui.
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• Este texto está disponível no sistema de traduções? Se sim, foi traduzido há mais de 24 horas?
• Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v97
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• Por favor, explique sua sugestão precisamente e de forma concisa, de forma que fique o mais fácil possível, entender o que você quer dizer.
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Qual navegador você está usando?
Google Chrome v97
Histórico do relatório
www.pagat.com/rummy/carousel.html#machiavelli
I won't add any other fancy rule.
The effect of this tactic is to drive away players who want to play and new players. Soon, these players will lose interest in the game because of the tactics of some.
Machiavelli Arena stats
Season Games. Players
S0 824 142
S1 3074 255
S2 2153 175
S3 1896 178
S4 3235 232
S5 2617 230
S6 1218 175
S7 884 160
S8 822 157
I fully agree with the complaints already made on this subject. Penalties do not exist in the real game and on the site, they were introduced to PENALIZE a player who does not respect the rules, but it turns out that in the end, they favor those who cheat!!! Couldn't we simply remove these penalties which completely divert the objective of the game, which in my opinion, is to improve one's strategy instead of seeking to win at all costs, in defiance of the rules of the game and one's opponents? ? Especially since when faced with this type of player, I systematically ask for the game to be abandoned, and this is systematically refused by the cheater!!!! They tell me that I just have to cheat too!!! I really like Machiavelli but it is more and more difficult to play "normally" and many of the "friends" I used to play with have abandoned the site for this reason....
The only addition is the 13 cards limit.
As Pagat says, "A general problem with manipulation rummy games is that laying down sets and runs helps the other players by giving them extra manipulation possibilities. The result is that players tend to hoard cards, waiting for others to meld, and hoping to go out by playing their whole hand at once. One solution to this problem is to limit the number of cards that can be played on one turn"...
There have been several changes made since the beginning (2013) and removing penalties doesn't prevent people from hoarding.
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